00:26          Hi, I'm Sadiq and I'm Christian. And this is episode 88 of shades of Brown. Uh, this week we're going to start off with the, I called us like the pre big announcement apple announcements. And now like the, uh, apple has a as a TV event coming up on Monday, right? Or is it Tuesday?

00:48          I believe it's on Monday. I think. Monday.

00:51          Yeah. Monday. Yeah. So before that they decided to get all of these of these uh, announcements out of the way. So we have three announcements to the device announcements. Oh, we have the first one is I think probably the most, the biggest one, I think. No, on the, uh, iPad, uh, the, the updated the uh, air, iPad air. Ah, the 10.5 in Japan air. Uh, and the updated finally the, the $3 two nine nine iPad mini. So, so the, so I beats means that, uh, both of these have like the new Aa 12 chip, right? They told bionic the what else there is the,

01:38          um, so basically what these ones have and they're just same builds, right? But, but they've been updated with this year's lion of soc and the IPAD Air Jay, just, just like the old version of the original iPad pro before it went to USBC and many just shoving a whole bunch of modern um, parts in it. And they both supported to apple pencil, but they support the old apple pencil and not the new pencil, which is right. Weird. That's a segmentation like the version of you right. It saying it's a part spin sort of approach to it, but like the really good parts you're putting in there, so it's not that bad of a deal that you're getting. No, and, and truthfully, I'm, I'm happy at the iPad minis still lives because, uh, if, if, if there isn't a good ios tablet ELAC eight inches, then there's no good tablets because, um, yeah, Andrew's like lol android tablets, right?

02:29          Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm Ashley, uh, like the IPAD air, like I've been actually wanting to get an iPad for, for a bed. Like it's becoming more than I need an iPad and a down like for like a few months ago I was like, yeah, like iPads, like you know, like not really fitting any sort of niche. But nowadays I find myself, thank you. Like media stuff is media consumption stuff is really, really nice on an Ipad, an iPad as the screen size. It's really handy. So I did, did order uh, an IPAD air. Ooh, you did Overwatch on the go? Yeah, pretty much. I mean I built on the Gulf coast and like around, around the apartment.

03:09          I mean I was on the say cellular or not, but then knowing I was like wait Canada.

03:14          Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Like, doesn't that make any sense for me? Like I get it would make sense if I like traveled or did stuff like that, but I don't, so I stuck with the right. Uh, I bet air 64 gigs, you know, Wifi bottle. Uh, so I'm looking forward to that. Should be here and like next week or so. Uh, did you get an apple pencil though? No, I see no point. No keyboard case as well. No, I just got the smart cover. They just, smart cover is all I need to have like a little like a, like a sort of a standard thing going on. Right. I don't need the keyboard or the or the just literally going to be like I'm going to set it up and I'm just going to have like all the media stuff on the home screen. That's all that's all going to be.

03:57          I mean it's not a waste of time. Like I'm honestly thinking about, cause I had an iPad mini for a couple of months. It was one that had a, I think we talked about it in a pot a little bit. It had a screen replacement that wasn't like an official apple one. So it was not a good time. And so I ended up just recycling that one. Got It for like 50 bucks. But I'm honestly considering just getting like a cellular version of the mini metaphor and just sort of using it with my own plan and just having it when I'm out and about. Because sometimes rates, since I have an eight, sometimes you need a screen. It's bigger, but I don't of my Mac book for all it.

04:28          Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah. That's the thing. Like I like I bought the excess because I still think, yeah, I mean, yeah, the excess Max be ridiculous. Right. I still, I still think that's the case, but for like doing media stuff, like trying to watch, okay, let me just put it this, trying to watch Overwatch on like an excess. Is this trying to like it's, it's not, it's not good because like it's just the resolution and like the screen size, it just doesn't work. Like, or she needs like there's a lot of stuff going on. I can't, I can't track it on a, on a mobile screen. Uh, so I need a bigger one.

05:01          And honestly too, it's like for for stuff outside of video, if you have books and comic books or pages, right? Vc, I think a four by three aspect ratio is a way better than, what is it? Is it 10 by 1660 by tits, a super skinny one. That would be that all the phones have now nowadays. Yeah,

05:19          I was, I was, I was thinking like ebooks on, on, on the IPAD. I don't know if that's like the good idea because ebooks on a, on a, on a screen like that,

05:28          LCD screens or not, it's still LCD. Right. But I mean it's, it's an apple quality LCD laminated. So out of all the lcds you want to be reading. Um,

05:40          yeah, I don't, I don't want to read books on it, but like greeting, I do read a lot of stuff online, like, you know, and it's so far he is actually my preferred browser for reading stuff online because, uh, well not, not, I used to use chrome handle chrome, didn't have a reader view. Uh, so, you know, so far it has a nice recovery, which is helpful. And also I get a picture in picture and stuff like that, which I wanted to try for awhile. Ooh. Are you going to become an Iowa's power user on this podcast? Talking about pot life tips? Uh, no, no, probably not. But I'm going to use Omni Omni focus on it. So it's going to be also my omnifocus sort of input device. Like I like my Mac book. I taught him, look at my Mac book pro was going to be that mega has been collecting dust for like literally months now. Uh, if you would like to buy a sad expect book pro, please email contact the two shades of brown.com just give, it's like if, if, if I don't want to sell it, I'll just probably give it to somebody if somebody really needs it. I keep it around. I also have my thing pad, I have too many computers so I bought another computer sometimes though.

06:48          But yeah, so that's the, I'm looking forward to it coming. Uh, I'm getting the case on Monday though because the case is available but the, the device isn't, so we get a be literally to same body of the old iPad. So it's like I'm willing to bet the KC by four it is going to say iPad pro, like smart cover on it and yeah, it's the same thing. So like it's, it's available like in, in, in Canada. So they could just like ship it like straight away but like d but the air is probably going to get shipped from China, like new devices. Uh, so that's, yeah, I'm looking forward to it. And then moving on like more and more. We have got to be a bit more, uh, Christian is probably excited about this one and the airpods uh, got update. No I'm not, I'm not, I'm not excited about new airpods cause I'm not there.

07:32          There's no reason to buy new airpods but it's just all the air pod of memes about like airpods users and the fact that he's ones in change at all. It's so good because I was, I was out and as soon as I saw the news that as I looked around to some of the friends I was hanging with and I'm like, Yo, we're all broken out. We ain't got the new airpods cause the [inaudible] super old odd future sweat. This sketch from [inaudible] lawyers later squad and it's like one person wearing airpods and a dude. He's yelling at them. It smells like broken here cause they don't have to be wrong. And this is like a really bad meme in terms of like what it means. Right. And it's a terrible name by the capital funding promotions of it. But it's also like super funny. And I fucking love Airpod memes.

08:18          Any Ndi, any airport and users in here, but yet, uh, so like, uh, the airport's going to do with what? So they have the rename the chip right to, it's a new, it's a different shifts but they renamed it as in like Debbie named like the initial letter. Yeah. Cause the w chips are now, now it can be exclusive to the watches. I'll come. And so this one's just for headphones. So cause that that actually sort of makes sense. Age Fred funds definitely for watch it don't make sense. Uh, so I'm, they also have, uh, a new version rights that has or doesn't need charging gains. That is, that can be charged wireless. Okay. Uh,

08:56          which doesn't make much sense without air power with the fuck is air power lake. I mean it's achieve one, so you can use any, you know, random someone, it's funny that air power is, doesn't keep shipping. And like,

09:09          I feel like all of this, like all of this wireless charging stuff like the phones, like, like, uh, the, the, the airport, like their port charging kiss, like all the stuff this, it's missing. It's missing like the, like the, uh, does the apple sells? Like

09:24          she charges that their stories. Okay. It's missing first Party party one. Yeah. It's kind of funny because they just keep scrubbing mentions of it from,

09:36          it's like the cat and like, it's like everybody thinks that's a dream now, but it actually, you know, it's not, uh, did, did a nonsense. Uh, it's just, I still think despite what I got some huge technical issue with it, like decat solvent, so they can't ship it. Uh, but yeah, if it was going to get lodged, I think it would have gotten lunch with this. Uh, it's not, there's not going to get launched on September, so I think that's, that's probably would be

10:02          Spec at this point

10:03          or it's never going to get launched. I think if, if, if it doesn't match my September, I think it's done. Uh, so that's a, that's airpods

10:11          also like the arrangement.

10:14          Yeah. The his area. I was on about dimension that the history, so you can now

10:19          Ashley, I just activated my phone. Science activate anything by saying that. I don't know if you could, is your phone just saying Silicon Valley?

10:29          Yes. I think it heard me say silicon valley somehow. I don't know. I don't understand how but it did. So yeah. Siri,

10:37          please stop. Siri's listening on the pod.

10:41          Siri listens to the pod. Yeah. Uh, so like the, the command, I'm not going to say it again, but it's uh, it's available. Didn't I do adjust the volume stuff? Play a different song. You know, you don't have to

10:55          play different songs. Um, Astrid's Astor is only available on apple music subscribers. This is really, it really is that it's actually on restriction. Like it's not like a general thing. Yeah. Via, so, um, if you need one to control media, what you have to do is rate. I don't know if Spotify has support for ya, but overcast does, right. We had to say like, hey blah, overcast, play this podcast ray. So, I don't know if Spotify has support for that yet. But like doing that and kind of media control is only limited to apple music because you know, why, why, why bother having open standards?

11:27          Yeah. Like, and say it has more top times. So you know, uh, I guess if he, if he'd do a lot of

11:35          calling on it. Well, I mean like the battery life on Air Pods, good to start pass the year of ownership. They, it goes down. Like, I think I've talked about, my mother talks about my screenshots where like my right air pod had consistently has 10% more battery life than my left one. So it was my last one is always dying first.

11:56          Yeah. I think it's because one of them do more work than the other,

11:59          think one of them because it doesn't use both for microphones. Right. It'll dynamically switch between them when you're talking. I don't know. I guess like at some point whenever I was doing a bunch of phone calls sometime within the last year, it, it just, if figured that the audio came out better from the left side of my mouth, I don't fully know if there's some sort of weirdness going on with that. And that's super annoying now to deal with it. It's still like not that big of a deal. It is a lot of people in the apple blogosphere like, oh, thank God my airpods battery. I can only make it through one and a half podcasts that were three hours.

12:32          I've heard the good foot podcast. It's unfortunate because again, it's, the design is the same and nice. They're still uncomfortable.

12:39          Uh, they should honestly just provide different sizes or just give them like silicon tips. You can adjust.

12:45          Yeah. Or I don't know. It just like in the basic design, I'm like the 5% of people it doesn't work for. Right. I like the design of this as like works for most people, but there's always like a small group of people. It doesn't work for her. And, uh, yeah, that's uh, they can, I can like I have like, you know, the, the stuff that comes with my cable, my phone or whatever. Yeah. The airpods right. The earpods I'm like I can wear them for light maximum like 30 minutes right before they start like getting really annoying and I can't really walk around with them because they tend to fall out as well. Which other thing? Uh, so yeah, it's just, there's just not great for me it's unfortunate because it would actually be handy to have airports because I do listen to podcasts and there'll be useful because I would be like charging them through halfway through, listen to like a three, three hour podcasts, some bullshit like listening to an episode of like the talk show and like not being able to finish it because of the battery.

13:42          Well that's only like after a year and a half of usage. Right. Everyday hard by default, but it's usually like eight hours of them. When I first got mine and this one, I think the longer battery life battery life is good on them. Battery life is good on them, although they are also releasing like the power beats. Apparently there is a leak this this week about that they're releasing and airpods sound one another truly wireless and those ones aren't like, you know, earbuds, those little ones that um, they have like the weird rubber thingy that you put on the other end of the year, right. To hold them in place.

14:12          Yes, yes. Yeah, I know, I know that design enough. Like it's like sports style. Yeah. So they're like usually designed for people who run outside. Right. So I did, it doesn't like, you know, fall off. Yeah. You should have like an x straps. Like you'd be, so if default, they're like just hanging around your neck I think. I think that's,

14:26          yeah. So power beats originally right now have a next job, but the rumor is that they're not going to have that next strap.

14:31          Oh, interesting. Okay. We'll see. Uh, I mean that might be more useful, but I'm also like skeptical of like beats sound, audio, audio, sort of.

14:40          What do you mean you don't, you don't want any face, you don't want some of that. I wish I really had a better audio interface right now. It's like a bump up the base on the queue for my voice.

14:49          God, that's a,

14:52          just turn it up on the job real quick. So you hear is like,

14:57          but yeah, like I'm, I'm like, I know they had pods, like are not good for audio quality, but like that's, I mean, that's to be expected. Really. Like it's not just,

15:05          it's for like convenience, right? Yeah. It's not like I could get better sound quality. I would like a some B and o headphones and like dead and the deck and you know, having a, having a USBC to, to like actual data headphone thing and then playing quagmires rain sound better. But then, you know what, if I ever took that on the bus, people would look at me like, I like, something's weird. Like that'd be, he will be like, well, this is the most extra thing you could do. And I'd be like, you're not wrong.

15:33          I've, I've, I've seen people like with, with like, uh, like, you know, those like android, LG, android phones and like, like, like, uh, like actual portable USB, Dak God. I've seen people like that. Honestly. I've seen them. I was like, because like, I used to go though and university with a lot of like, like

15:52          click nerds, bunch of nerds, you know, I mean like how much fidelity do you need for your enemy? Osts excuse me, I need them 24 bit flat. I need the highest quality possible. And I'm like, Oh, who is flex only? Only the best flax around here. Yeah. Weird flax. But okay.

16:15          That's the, that's the episode. I think that's, that's actually the base. Okay, let's, let's actually move on before we completely derail, uh, uh, not to be forgotten. I suppose the Imac. Uh, so it's just like spank Bunbury like a CPU. Well, significant SPEC bump I suppose. Um, so the six CPU cores are going to be standard at the 27 inch model. Like, so it's like the, uh, what age generation Intel chip. Uh, and I both sizes offer now for high end workstation class Vega graphics options. So like,

16:55          Oh, the old Vegas either not like the radio and apple really stopped shipping. Old Gps. Most needs to make up in the video.

17:09          I mean, I'm also how you mentioned like the parts bin thing. This is really the part spit like this is actually the parts,

17:16          especially since they didn't update it to support the t two chip it's announced, makes the Imac like the base, the old imac pro supports it. The Imac is the only device right now that does not have support for the t two chip. Oof.

17:29          Oh

17:31          yeah. This, this like it's all Linux on it, I guess. So that's kind of a benefit.

17:35          I mean, if you buy, I don't know who's buying an Imac to install Linux on it, but uh,

17:41          if you bought an Imac, like a $4,000 Imac, Justin saw Linux on it, please add Sadiq Seva at ten four. Dot.

17:49          Oh wait, no, no, no. Saxy the on Dumbo clouds at me because I wanted to know why. Like why would you just compiles faster when it's made by apple man, you just, you just made every lettings user in the vicinity just like have this like twitch in their eye because he just said I know.

18:07          No, I know what I said. I know what I said and I stand by it. And once again if you have any concerns about this please email all feedback to contacted she shades brown dog. Huh?

18:17          Apparently like a imac pro configuration options also got updated like, like quietly

18:23          it was just like a, yeah, it's like a mild spec when I'm like you can now pay, what is it? Is it like $2,000 for 256 gigs of Ram? Like some absurd amount of money for them.

18:32          I mean if you're the kind of person that buys an Imac pro fully specked out, I don't think like a few thousand more dollars is the issue. Right? Like if you're buying this thing, it's going to be like some sort of render machine, right? You are like some, you know, beast of an x code thing I guess or whatever. You're like rendering, like, uh, I dunno like final, final code or like a does Maya or like whatever. Those take things that use a lot of Frahm like Photoshop with like a billion layers, you know, stuff like that. Uh, so yeah, I mean that's, that's not that, not that makes sense. But this is just like, like this is like the least important of these, but also like feels like the Imac is sort of like in a weird place. They, why he by the IMF versus time at Crow Lake? Uh, I dunno.

19:23          Well you can get like a kind of

19:25          cheaper Imac, right? Obviously if you're spending 40,000 or Imac like, I mean at that point, why not just spend another 1000 or 1000 or $2,000 like apple computer and you want and all that stuff. You have to be ferry. I was like, this is like one of the 21 inch, I guess, uh, be probably the cheapest one yet. But he could get like a decent mac desktop I suppose. But the way the dad, yeah.

19:54          Also too, a lot of people like buying Imax is of a style style points, right? Like I really like the all in one version of um, pudding, RGB Ram and your and you're open glass desktop computer rate. Like obviously you can get something a lot more basic for a lot cheaper

20:14          but you're but like you pay for the style points because you want to feel better about yourself. I mean see I bought RGB Ram but I, I don't have a transparent kiss. I mean you, you know in your heart though that, that you're getting more gamer power. Do you know that in your heart also? It's weird because I can like see the rambling. If I'll turn the lights on I can see the ram doing it. So like, like it's, it's like RGB light pattern through the fan events in the back of the cancer.

20:45          Oh Yo speaking about like patterns and Shit. I found out for the first time, like last week about the MSI dragon on their motherboards. The animation, you should get, that shit is wild. Like fuck a PC gaming money. Are you spending on that motherboard that just has that? And it's like not any sort of performance gains. The years probably spending so much more on that fucking motherboard. It's about style points.

21:10          It's like when you, when, when you got the specs, what do you have the money? It's about the style. It's like, it's just, you just have like a transfer, like a fully transparent glass case. And he'd just have like LEDs and like water cooling, like, like purple water cooling or whatever and like dragons and like, why the fuck, uh, that, that stuff's like the, like the PC gaming. I know. Uh, it's just, it's LEDs and, uh, want to call it again, ridiculous dragons on your motherboard, Huh? All right. So those are the apple apple announcements. Now we have some video games, but not in a, in, in, in, in, uh, it a kind of a weird way, I suppose we're talking about Google's announcement this week. Uh, last that's sweet. Add GDC. I just having a GDC, right? Uh, the announcement of the Google game streaming service, Google stadiums stadia is how you pronounce it.

22:13          Pronounce it started? Yeah. Oh my God.

22:19          Can we talk about how terrible of a name it is? Like is it just sounds like some drug, like, like Google now a pharmaceutical company and like what?

22:27          Well, wow. Well I Jake voice here. Absolutely.

22:33          Oh my God. You know, the data that steal from us and then they offered the services. That's the real pharmaceutical.

22:38          I mean you, you know, 23 and me does run on the Google cloud.

22:42          Oh my God. That's also correct. It totally does. What on the Google cloud? No, I'm like, I mean a lot of things went on the Google call. It that, uh, let's start though. Uh, the, uh, so you go stadia uh, this is essentially, I think Christian talked about goop that the project, uh, stream Beta, sort of like the play test of the, of assassin's creed artists here. Right? Did he did, so this is essentially the same thing, right? Just like actual product name and like, uh, they're going to actually launch something with this. Uh, so what else, what else is there to talk about it? It's kind of kind of controller. It looks like it's sort of looks like a

23:28          straight, okay. So yeah, this controller has the incorrectly out, so all the nerves about to get mad at me. But listen here, thumb sticks being on the same vertical line rate, like a play station controller is not the correct way. It's bad. It's actually so bad. Like I don't know why like Nintendo learned their lesson that we, you like that. And then for the switch they put it the right configuration. Every time I think about that,

23:55          the playstation controller, like I swear to God, like be the analogs thinks being on the same level. It's just like just, it just bothers me. It's like, it's, it's, it's weird like, uh, I don't know if it just getting used to thing. Like, I would imagine if you all, if you only use Sony controllers, that's a weird to go to, you know, like it being on a different level. Right? But like, yeah. Uh, so this, this controller, it looks like, looks like a, the Xbox one controller was actually like, became like Sony ps four controller about like, it's, it's another taller than that. So it has like a, a d pad controller, like the analog sticks on the same level. X, Y, Ba. So he is in the right order of Ab, right Ab. So Ba bs on writer is on button instead of Nintendo's weird, uh, Nintendo controller always fucks me up because they switch a and B, right?

24:52          Yeah, yeah, yeah. This explains why, like in Zelda I've been like,

24:58          oh wow.

24:59          Yup. Like certain things, right. Do you need to like today a four? And I always like end up hitting beef. Holy Shit.

25:06          Bad at smash because I always forget like, Eh, uh, like be is on the bottom on is on, on the right, on, on the, on the pro controller on, on this, on the switch and the, and the also the joycons, right. Uh, and Xbox one controller has a on the bottom and be on the right. So it's just like the sweat. So that always trips me up. Right. As that is a thing. It's strange. I also, this controller will be like in a connected, it has a Wifi, an indirect. They'd connects directly to the service. Right. Interesting.

25:38          Yes, we can use a smartphone app to go ahead and connect it to your Wifi. And then it talks to the Google cloud at all times. You know, this is literally a controller for a microphone in it that's always connected to the Internet.

25:51          Ooh. Can't, can't wait to get the new story a few months after this release of that, it's recorded secretly recording everything, uh, a game or a status, uh

26:01          oh. What's going to be like, oh, well, you know, we uh, put a microphone in it, but if you go to google.com/privacy, you can definitely listen to all recordings of us. Four in the morning yelling about pizza rolls in near, um, Kellogg's bonuses for buffs and destiny. Oh my God. You remember that? You remember when I bought pop tarts? Do you remember that one time and I own box of pop tarts?

26:27          Yeah. You did. You absolutely did. I altered or about the time you bought? Like a, the boost the

26:34          wow. Wow. I, I, you know, I didn't ask you to put me on blast like that. I, you know, you know I was, that was not

26:45          okay. Bingo card thing.

26:48          Yeah, Bingo card thing. Me Mentioning youth paying $100 on loot boxes and then he's spending $40 on a character both on a character. I delete it a week later to see how it works. The good time. Listen, we've all, we all made mistakes in our lives, you know, at the very least, you know, I'm not shaming it for any more. You're not fucking that. That's, that's problematic to shame people for buying an APP purchases because like in all seriousness, I like sure, okay maybe it isn't a great deal to buy a bunch of Overwatch loot boxes, but like if they wanted to buy it, it's like their, you know, own money and stuff right.

27:25          Since gambling and Bristol decision.

27:29          So like you don't shame the gamblers, you shame the system. Right, exactly. Like you don't enable it. Like it's not about the person, right. Because it's the game like is built to entice you to do it. Right. And it's like, oh shit. Like don't make fun of someone just because they like, we're like, fuck it. Let me just buy it because you know everything in this game is pointing to you having a better time and you pay for it. And you know that project stream too. It's like speaking about like gambling, right? Like so we have like the streaming bit, which we've talked about before, so I don't really think we need to go on it cause it's basically how project stream was our stadiums, right? It's how the assassin's creed demo that I played and we've talked about in previous episodes, controlling a video feed latency, all of that. The controller piece is interesting because it did correct. Connects directly to a cloud and has a Google assistant button on FM microphone. But what's super interesting here is how is this going to be monetized? Is it because Google's like, oh you can be watching youtube game for a trailer and immediately start playing the game and it's like, well how do you pay for that? Right? Is it a subscription service that isn't going to be like, you know, microtransaction up all hell, okay.

28:29          No, I I think it's going to be a subscription service because otherwise it doesn't make sense. They are trying to, the hope pitch for this is reducing the friction between when you watch a wash, like a let's play video off a game, right on youtube then are on twitch or whatever, and then he'd just go directly into playing the game. Like basically immediately, right? They can essentially like making it so that you can just like you, you, you see something, somebody playing a game and you can also play that game like straight away because uh, because because it's a streaming service so you don't have to like download the game and like you had to, don't have to purchase the game. It's like a subscription service. Right. I would imagine like something like, if I would have to guess where it was like a pricing model, I would say it's like going to be like, um, maybe like $30 a month or something like that.

29:17          Uh, you know, uh, or maybe they have like some tears like, or if you pay like $20 a month, you get like the single GPU option rate or they have like two, the dem demoed like two things like single GPU and multiple GPU so that you pay for $20 a month. You get, you get like games using like a single GPU so you can like sort of a lower uh, are they performance and graphical option. But if you want to like really go like in play like games and like uh, the highest fidelity you can like get like the multi Gpu tier or you got whatever, right? Uh, $30 a month or something like that. Like that sounds, that sounds like what they probably are going to do like

29:55          Google here. So there's always the option of free with ads. Imagine that, imagine that like every 20 minutes during game play you just have to watch like a pre roll ad. Like it's youtube cause you know, youtube videos life, it goes 20 minutes, it gets broken up and like three ad breaks.

30:10          Just the thought of that. And just that got me annoyed because the recently like a, I think twitch change something on their uh, on their ad system and it bro, like you block origin started blocking ads on twitch. And let me tell you just, just Twitter chats are like actually the worst. Like

30:27          switch ads are the most gamer thing ever. It's like, it's like what if we like just Edward Doritos but for gamers and it just made really aggressive, super hyper masculine and marketing and then every 10 minutes on a twitch stream.

30:44          Great. Uh, so I'm hoping there's no,

30:47          I mean there's definitely going to be an ad supported version of her all. Blake, can you pay money to get rid of beds? Absolutely. I don't think that they're going to exclude that, but you know for sure that project stadia is going to be laid in with ads. Oh, even better dynamically inserted ads in game. That's the technology is there. Right? Think about it. You're driving it and overruled and you just see a billboard with Tostinos pizza rolls because they've done it before in games like burnout. So there's no reason.

31:16          Oh the triple is truly is going to love that shit. They love that garbage. Ubisoft loves that Shit. Ubisoft Tostinos in the substance part. My God fucking like you're going to have fun.

31:28          Well let's go get some pizza. Oh my God, no branded ques. If you played there like a couple of hours of free game time,

31:37          Hey this is a hell world,

31:40          you know for sure you know 100% this is how it's going to work.

31:45          I'm not looking forward to this. I'm not, I'm looking forward to AAA bought the shirt is like I know [inaudible] publishes a nod lake beyond doing like product placement inside games but like this is, this is going to be uh,

32:01          yeah. I think that like this is going to take off just for the fact of that knowing of knowing what I know from project stream, this is good enough for most people.

32:13          Yeah. I mean I suppose it is going to be,

32:16          youtube is good enough for most people in terms of video quality, right? Yes. Sydney was crunchy roll like, cause you know me and you, we, we don't want, we do not want artifacts and our enemy. Right. And you know, I want Okie dokies no full mke so no hard subtitles. You know, I want to control the font myself. I want no compression artifacts on my Doki Doki is and punching it is like real shit for video quality and people still pay for it because it's convenient and I feel like,

32:46          so that's, that's the thing, they're betting but also have the seat and time. Right. I think this is going to capture like, like this sort of like the casual games market, right? But not, not like the market that's really into console gaming. Right. I think the console gaming market is still going to still going to remain fairly strong and like this is going to get sort of aspect. I like certain demographic that's going to really want that at all. Highly like low. They can see like, you know, like, or console game and they higher fidelity, like, you know, stuff like that or uh, but this is going to make, yeah, there's going to be like this new demographic of people that are going to be like, did I really want to do in order to buy a car for console because they don't play games that often to justify it or whatever. Right.

33:31          Or think about places like having a console. Does that make sense? Because you know, your primary computers, your phone, right? Like there's always a down market to, right. Tablets are being used like TVs, right? Like people who buy android tablet, ones with big screen, just the watch video and yeah, they're not using their TVs that much because even like places like America, yeah. Most people probably have a TV in their house, but other countries, that's not how it works. Right. We'll just live on their phones having that, you, you, at that point, you literally cannot play these games, right? Like you cannot play any sort of these games and this is something that can bring it to those devices.

34:07          Yeah, that's, you're right. It does this. There's also a, Google has a first party studio, a bad enough by Jade Raymond who is, who used to be at Ubisoft. She's like a long time video game designer. Uh, so she's going to be heading up the stadia games and entertainment a steady out. Uh, it's gotta be that First Party Games Studio Gogo released exclusive games I guess for the state, for the stadium platform. Uh, when she was just interesting when see they've journalists I'm going to just like buy this and be like by stadium just to play like this what exclusive game and like never, never we use it again or whatever. Uh, let's see. So is there anything else to talk about? Like is the latency thing like worth talking about is I didn't see anybody.

34:55          That's the problem, right? It's like the latency exists 25 megabits up and you probably want ac on both sides and you can play a game like assassin's creed without having a bad time. And that's with the latency I got. I notice it because me and you are super sensitive to frame rates and I'm displays because we're nerds. Right? But most people are not like us, right. Most people don't really notice it because they don't spend that much time thinking about it. Right. And if they do, it's whatever. I noticed compression stuff and youtube videos. I know audio quality sounds, but I don't care. Right. I'm done. I'm not that much of a video buff. I don't really care about it. Saint the enemy. Right. Like I was joking a moment ago, I'll watch it on crunchy roll cause I don't care if there's, if like a whole screen of blue like some weird like some pixel car artifacting on it,

35:40          Lord. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So there is like a certain good enough quality to it, right. And goof off all the companies to do this rate. I think Google has the infrastructure like DB. I mean the infrastructure hasn't like Geek like the network backbone necessary to make this work worthwhile. Like dare leave. I leave and see Joe Google in many places is very low because Google would be squeeze everywhere. Uh, the Google data centers, Google go cash, Google. Uh, this, this is why the youtube works so well in so many places is because he's like, Google has spent like probably billions of dollars building like a global network of uh, Google like youtube

36:28          infrastructures. Youtube is a distributed service has a real bad, they have a distribution network. It was terrible. It was the [inaudible] to make sure that I had a good pen earlier. You know, folks that not every jokes a winter you want to sing. Like Google has the

36:48          definitely has like if Google has the infrastructure, they have the expertise as well to make this happen. Right? Like they definitely have that. But also I'm concerned like if do do home networks have the infrastructure like do, is the average home at work ready for this?

37:03          It's all about five g man, five g AI. That's how you get game streaming to work. Big words.

37:12          The data center is your platform.

37:14          It is it the I'll, I'll, I'll um, one tide rises all ships in the data center.

37:22          All servers.

37:23          Alright. Yeah, I'll water cooled servers rise up. Oh, Mike overthrow overthrow the government. Right. That's, that's the, uh,

37:32          like even like a Google like in this and this, uh, this thing, you know, it's been like Phil Harrison, uh, uh, Google says that like stadium won't be for everybody that you'd want to reach everybody. Like, you know, if the, not for everybody, but, uh, like they want to get that market anywhere, like gave d are betting on the feature that like the infrastructure is going to get better. Maybe you need to general now working for social for, for consumers it's going to get better because Google already has a lot already has reached like networking, working for sexual level that is like beyond like anything available to consumers. But that's, I think they're betting on the future here, right? They, the betting that this is going to be the future and that the infrastructure is going to like sort of rise up to their level basically. So that's the, that's the, that's the thing. I'm still skeptical because speed of light they didn't see. And the in and out in general being very unreliable, you know, it's a, uh, I'm skeptical. Uh, but yeah, I'm going to lift like none. Wow. But nothing about this. It's concrete. So we'll see what happens. I suspect we'll have more news soon. Uh, we also want to talk about,

38:52          it's called like the, the Microsoft. Okay. Uh, side of the space. Clearly. So this is going to be what, like this is, this is the, this the streaming service, right? This industry we said it services a Microsoft announcer GDC as well. They're going to have like an Sdk called the touch adaptation kit, uh, which is like, it's actually like a Ui toolkit to make a Xbox games feel natural and like phones and tablets. Uh, so Krista, can you like explain it? This thing is this like, uh,

39:31          I think is this like a beat of my now of like game streaming? It doesn't mean, I guess like what are the things that I don't have any experience with it in terms of like how much we talk about it, right? Like, I feel like game streaming is the one thing that we have consistently covered throughout the run of this entire show.

39:50          Yeah.

39:51          MMM. Well, so how x cloud, right? I'm pretty sure we know, we've detailed it a lot, you know the core of it. So it's Microsoft's version of game streaming. Um, and what they announced this week at GDC is a kit [inaudible] porque controls over to um, touch devices. So it's a layer that runs on top of the game, right? You don't have to like hard coded into the game and basically it allows you to add, adapt a touch controller to fit the needs of, you know, the input that's required rate. So say for example, you're in an overview map and Fordsa so you're not going to show a controller overlay, right? With like virtual buttons, you can just kind of scroll romp your finger and pinch and zoom and there's a way to make that work in game and translate to controls the end game. Well, when you're driving, right?

40:32          Instead of showing all, you know, all of the, like the 20 or 30 x box buttons, what you're going to see is just, you know, a customized layout just meant for driving. Yeah. And same thing for like Halo, right? It's something if you're in a work hug and the hop with a warm hug and you switch to something that's, you know, men for shooting and it's a super simple toolkit that you can use. And Microsoft also launching a new developer tool kits, right? So you can buy an Xbox, an STK ray and Xbox Dev kit that comes with the, uh, of a rudimentary form of the streaming service that you can run locally. Right. With controls, you know, to, to lower it, to mess up latency and introduced fake late and seeing all that. Yeah.

41:09          Okay. That's interesting. Yeah. I mean, so, so essentially the Microsoft is focusing on like, like deep, like the UX aspect of it or more than goodness, right? Like it feels like a Microsoft to this announcement is more about like the sort of adapting your games to this new era of uh, like mobile. Where are you going to have a big triple a titles that you first person shooters, like racing games, big budget titles that are going to be on, on, on mobile devices like tablets or phones and essentially they providing the sort of tooling necessary to make them like, you know, actually be playable. Uh, which, which is interesting. It's like an interesting approach. Uh, I don't think like this, just not the screaming thing. Streaming services are not going to be called x cloud. Right. It's like going to be like something that Claude is just like a project team I suppose. Did all of this is just like, like really early, like all like this? Some of the shorter GDC like GDCs obviously like of is as the name suggests, you know, the game developers conference. So like thought, like do stuff for developers. Okay. I suspect we once the actual like any sort of product [inaudible] okay. Probably the end of the year before. Uh Huh. Uh, I don't have anything else to say about it other than that, but Forza looks, looks, looks interesting. Uh, playing forced on a foreign stuff sounds kind of fun. Okay.

42:47          And honestly the device portability stuff's really interesting too, right? Yeah, yeah. You just think about it, you can have the local version of Fordsa right on your computer, but then when you're out on your phone, just play a little bit of [inaudible]. Right. And have all that progress sync to the PC version. When you get home, you mean like just just like, I mean like game status and sessions sharing, right. Because I would say as well you can like pause it and immediately pick up where you left off on another device.

43:09          Okay.

43:09          And in theory if you have a local version of the game, right, you could do it as well to have some sort of like fancy state saving

43:17          a code, but it's much harder at things tend to just, you know, have like the game beyond like on a, on a server somewhere and you just sort of like just just disconnect from one device to just connect back to it. Right. It's easier than, you know, like moving the state of local games entirely from like a one device to another. Right. Like if I was playing forza horizon for on my PC that I quit the game, uh, and I go back to the Xbox one, like it's, it's going to still be the same file. We'll still sink. Right. Because that's the thing, right. But it's not going to be like in the same state. Like it's just going to be like back into the launch menu. Right. Uh, so that's the stat. Oh, so game streaming is apparently like a thing that we are going to be talking about for a while because it seems to be picking up steam, uh, speaking steam. What is valve doing?

44:10          Steve Blank. Oh yes. I forgot about, I even have the version.

44:17          Yes, yes. For Mobile. That gets into this like, oh, it's like an APP now. Not It's enough hardware device and you can just, you know. Okay. So, so like I actually have a steam link collecting dust somewhere. I don't even know where it is. Alzheimer's steam controller collecting. Yeah.

44:30          Ooh, that's controller. Why'd you get

44:32          one? It's okay. This is, this was literally like I was at, I was at the mall and I was like, hmm. Let me go step into the EEB games and see what I see, see if there's anything interesting and I'm just going to pick up steam controller and the steam. Right. For her for no reason. Like it was just an impulse buy really a, and I didn't really think it through to be honest. They'd be a femme being completely honest and I don't even know what the seemed controller is or the steam link something

44:58          or was it even a good controller?

45:00          No, I don't like it. It's terrible. I was terrible for me. I know some people don't really like it because it because it has a certain like uh, physical way, like some people who really preferred like it's more comfortable for some people. But for me it was just really, really strange. Like I only used it once and I was like, Holy Shit, it was not for me. Uh, yeah, it does have this, so it's a valve is doing that. A valve is also doing other really weird shit that we don't want to talk about because it's just oh, mess. Uh,

45:33          yeah.

45:34          Yeah. I think we're going to just the wrap up here before we start getting into like all the weird shit about those. Uh, so he has all this, uh, show notes, the two shades of brown.com

45:45          transcripts. And I know, I'm aware that these are all machine generated and it's a little wonky. I'm trying to figure out if I need to edit the version of the show differently for the machine to pick it up better. That's a good, that's an interesting, yeah. Because every time I upload it and I get a audio quality rating of low, every time I, and I'm uploading like a raw wave, right? I don't upload a flack, it's not, I don't upload a, or sorry to up an MP three. I don't do a sort of compressed version of it and it still tells me it has a hard time deciphering it. So I'm trying to figure out where in the editing pipeline I may need to make changes at to get better transcripts because I do, I do go in and try and manually, you know, correct some things. Um, but it's more of like a loose it and I'm not, you know, tightly going through it all. But we do have transcripts now in any feedback on that would definitely be appreciated.

46:31          Yeah. Bishop contacted two shades of Brown dark comic and you know, email us suggestions. Maybe, maybe not a better service. I don't know. Maybe those exist. If this is something that other people are doing, let us know. Uh, and you can find me on Mastodon at static safe a mastodon dot [inaudible] dot com and a Christian. Where can people find you on the Internet?

46:55          You can find me@chosetofindatenforwarddotsocialchosea.online. Um, which may be down at the moment. I'm actually, it just got an email saying it's down because I'm, I moved from using fast mail for my domain Dns, which is a terrible idea, uh, to a different DNS service and I don't know why it's down. So I'm, I'm, I'm now going to, after the show's over, I'm going to figure out why my website's down. But it shouldn't be back up by the time you listened to this problem. I hate networking so much.

47:25          Oh my God. Let me know if you need help.

47:27          I mean, I, I switched it to hovers DNS earlier and like I changed the names, but like, I don't know, add the erecord probably stapes. Let's see. All right. That sound right now. And that has a, a record. The host is supposed to be an astronaut and the value is, oh wait, wait for the Ip and the values both being some of the points. I just, I just looked

47:50          chill, saw, I'll line up. There's, there's, there's no Erica, so you just forgot.

47:55          Oh No, I did it the wrong way. So I put the Ip address of what? Like, so basically I created a sub domain and then put the asterisk for the values. That's why nothing's working.

48:08          Okay. You live in learn mistakes are how you learn. And I think everybody has made that mistake and these ones when to do DNS so that it's, you're not the first one to do that. Uh, would that, that's shorter segment of troubleshooting, that sort of shit. Some brook. Good bye. Bye.

48:28          I hate networking so much.